If There Be Thorns

2015
5.6| 1h40m| NA| en| More Info
Released: 05 April 2015 Released
Producted By: A+E Studios
Country: United States of America
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Christopher and Cathy Dollanganger live together as man and wife with Cathy's two sons who are unaware of the incestuous nature of their parents' relationship. But when a mysterious woman moves in next door and befriends the younger boy, Bart, he begins a strange transformation and displays accusatory behavior towards Cathy and Christopher. When Christopher discovers their mysterious neighbor is, in fact, his mother Corrine Dollanganger, all of the family's long-hidden secrets are revealed in a tragic climax.

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Nancy Savoca

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A+E Studios

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Supelice Dreadfully Boring
FrogGlace In other words,this film is a surreal ride.
Billie Morin This movie feels like it was made purely to piss off people who want good shows
Cody One of the best movies of the year! Incredible from the beginning to the end.
indialove-54107 Well what can I say! Once a massive fan of Virginia Andrews writings until she passed away and her team continued to write in her name, the change was so apparent and not up to her standards that I had to stop. As for the movies ( If that's what you call them)the first was utter rubbish, the second was worse and the third appalling. The acting was atrocious. Regretfully wasted a good few hours of my life on what I can only describe as a gigantic pile of cods-wallop!! No Offense meant to all those that loved the movies.Well what can I say! Once a massive fan of Virginia Andrews writings until she passed away and her team continued to write in her name, the change was so apparent and not up to her standards that I had to stop. As for the movies ( If that's what you call them)the first was utter rubbish, the second was worse and the third appalling. The acting was atrocious. Regretfully wasted a good few hours of my life on what I can only describe as a gigantic pile of cods-wallop!! No Offense meant to all those that loved the movies.
sophie This film was very good and did show the book well but I just didn't feel as drawn into this film. I do think the constant change of characters are confusing and they all seem new again even through they only look different. I understand they do this to show they have aged but with make up I believe you could have done that to the previous Chris and Cathy as I think they were much better. I did like Cathy in this film but I do not feel Chris looked like what he should in the books. They are meant to be the 'Dresden Dolls' but I think it is Chris' hair maybe, he just does not fit the Doll. I do think the children fit very well though. Apart from that the film was enjoyable I just wouldn't be in a rush to watch it again. :)
Austin S. Russell (arussell23) Oh, how I didn't miss this messed up family. Welcome, guys, to my review of the third (out of four) film in the Dollanganger saga. This time, Cathy and Chris are recast (again) and they have kids this time! Let's see if the film series has learned from it's mistakes of Petals on the Wind, or if it will go further down the rabbit hole. This is......If There Be Thorns. If There Be Thorns mainly follows the Dollanganger family several years after the end of Petals on the Wind, as their lives have finally fallen into a sense of normalcy. Things change quickly as a new woman moves in next door - and surprise, it's Corrine! Bart makes fast friends with her, and after the butler gives him his grandfather's journal, he starts making his way down a path that could lead to destruction.This is probably the best film of the Dollanganger series so far, and I do mean that. Flowers in the Attic was good, but it had a lot of problems that made it annoying to watch at times. Petals on the Wind was just mediocre, which is one of the worst things you can say about a movie. This movie, however, this movie is more special. At first, I didn't think this was going to be a good entry, but man, was I wronger than I've ever been before.Let's talk about the plot for a minute, because this plot is the most entertaining thing about the movie, along with the script. We meet Cathy and Chris's kids, Jory and Bart. Bart is the best child, because his storyline is so deliciously complicated. I won't spoil it, but it is so complicated that you find yourself wondering if Bart has something truly wrong with him, and it's so intriguing to try and puzzle it out. Oh, and one more thing, what the hell is this series's obsession with fire?The script is great too. Bart's borderline multiple personality disorder shines through, and some of the conversations he has with other adults and his own brother are downright chilling. A lot of the scenes have tension to them, and of course that wouldn't be possible without the acting. The acting is really superb from all, but most of all Mason Cook, who plays Bart.If Bart had been played by a shitty child actor, the grade would have dropped to a B or B-, I'm sure of it. But since he was played by such an amazing child actor, the personality traits that are meant to be shown shine through, and it works just so beautifully. One of the best parts of the entire film comes from a scene in which Bart gets angry at his adopted sister and does something that I won't spoil, and the scene that comes afterwards is probably one of the best in the entire series.The other actors did great too, though Heather Graham, who plays Corrine, is the one I was the most upset about. She didn't feel like she did in the other films, she felt cold and distant, like she was only in it for the paycheck this time around. Other actors, including newcomers to the roles of Cathy and Chris, Jason Lewis and Rachael Carpani are really good, and probably the best in the series so far.Overall, this is a very solid entry to the Dollanganger series. I enjoyed the film immensely, and while I still have some issues with how this series was built, this is the best in the series and one I would love to watch again.9/10. Grade: A-
dhainline1 I watched "If There Be Thorns" and I thought it would be a good sequel to "Flowers in the Attic" and "Petals on the Wind." I was a bit wrong in that regard! It felt too rushed even though the actors did the best with what they had! The actors who played Cathy and Chris were just how I pictured them, but the actor who played Jory had hair that was too light and Jory in the book had blue-black hair and light skin. The actor who played Bart was great! He was so good at playing the creepy, little, misunderstood kid who was manipulated by Cathy and Chris's mom, Corinne. I thought the old age makeup on Heather Graham was quite good! As for Bart, man that kid was a brat! He was brainwashed by Corinne, her creepy butler, John Amos and the words of Malcolm Foxworth, the great-grandfather of Bart and Jory. He almost drowned little Cindy, the newly adopted sister and daughter of the family and he acted like a little beast around his family! I did like how he redeemed himself by saving his mom and grandmother from the fire John Amos set and the way Corinne redeemed herself by asking Cathy for forgiveness for what she did to her kids in "Flowers in the Attic." Unfortunately, Bart's twisted nature gets worse in "Seeds of Yesterday" (headsup).